Yet another channel question
<p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>Hi,</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>I know this topic was covered many time but as we can read contradictory replies I’d like to recap what is possible and what is not with Legrand/Netatmo plugs, switches, blinds, commands, etc.</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>Near all items after 2020 support Zigbee 3.0 and then inter-brand routing or 3rd party controllers.</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>Legrand & Bticino gateways create a Zigbee network over channel 11 on first setup and all devices bind to this network during pairing.</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>Devices can alternatively use a 3rd party gateway (with more or less reliability depending on the brand) but doing so will loose both firmware updates and HomeControl app because they need Legrand/Bticino gateway (even with HomeKit mode).</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>Gateway’s channel selection is automatic during pairing (channels 11 to 26) except for battery-less switches needing manual cycling. This is likely why Legrand Gateway sticks to channel 11 (no need for painful cycling).</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>But – there’s a but – we enter problems (slowness, delays, lost binding) with Legrand/Bticino gateway if WiFi channels 1/2/3 are loaded.</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>As an example in my case : Eero 2.4 GHz uses channel 1 and leaves free upper bands. Eero Thread and Zigbee use channel 25 at the opposite. Aqara Zigbee uses channel 15 in the middle. Bticino gateway uses channel 11 in interference with WiFi channel 1.</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>I’d like using shared channel 25 for improved mesh but it means stop using BTicino gateway.</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>I’d like using free channel 20 but BTicino gateway do not allow custom channel selection (nor does it detect WiFi collision).</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>Is all of this correct ?</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>If yes is there any plan for a new generation (more Zigbee 3/Thread 1.4 friendly) gateway ?</span></p><p class=”p2″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”> </p><p class=”p1″ style=”margin: 0px; font-width: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;”><span class=”s1″ style=”font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;”>This is deeply unsatisfying that a market leader group as Legrand cannot deal such basic channel selection topic</span></p>
<p>PS : ridiculous those html tags added inline. Posted again hoping as unstyled text.</p><p> </p><p>Hi,</p><p>I know this topic was covered many time but as we can read contradictory replies I’d like to recap what is possible and what is not with Legrand/Netatmo plugs, switches, blinds, commands, etc.</p><p>Near all items after 2020 support Zigbee 3.0 and then inter-brand routing or 3rd party controllers.<</p><p>Legrand & Bticino gateways create a Zigbee network over channel 11 on first setup and all devices bind to this network during pairing.</p><p>Devices can alternatively use a 3rd party gateway (with more or less reliability depending on the brand) but doing so will loose both firmware updates and HomeControl app because they need Legrand/Bticino gateway (even with HomeKit mode).</p><p>Gateway’s channel selection is automatic during pairing (channels 11 to 26) except for battery-less switches needing manual cycling. This is likely why Legrand Gateway sticks to channel 11 (no need for painful cycling).</p><p>But – there’s a but – we enter problems (slowness, delays, lost binding) with Legrand/Bticino gateway if WiFi channels 1/2/3 are loaded.</p><p>As an example in my case : Eero 2.4 GHz uses channel 1 and leaves free upper bands. Eero Thread and Zigbee use channel 25 at the opposite. Aqara Zigbee uses channel 15 in the middle. Bticino gateway uses channel 11 in interference with WiFi channel 1.</p><p>I’d like using shared channel 25 for improved mesh but it means stop using BTicino gateway.</p><p>I’d like using free channel 20 but BTicino gateway do not allow custom channel selection (nor does it detect WiFi collision).</p><p>Is all of this correct ?</p><p>If yes is there any plan for a new generation (more Zigbee 3/Thread 1.4 friendly) gateway ?</p><p>This is deeply painful that a market leader group as Legrand cannot deal such basic channel selection topic.</p>
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